The dates of the 2012 Mesquite Amateur golf tournament are May 28th to June 1st. We have six championship golf courses in the rotation this year that include CasaBlanca, Coyote Springs, Falcon Ridge, The Oasis Canyons, The Oasis Palmer, The Palms and a new addition Conestoga Golf Club. Visit our website for schedule details and to register at www.mesquiteamateur.com. Early registration fees end on March 31st. Watch for regular posts to our blog for updated information on the best tournament in the desert.
Christian, It’s really good to see interest peeking for this tournament. I’m hoping that not all of these new folks are BIG eaters which will leave me with less food at the 19th hole. And I need my nourishment !
Charlie,
No worries on the food. We will have plenty of food for everyone at the nightly dinner parties each night!
Ok, I opened this can of worms and all I was trying to say is when a person between 13-21 handicap shoots a 63 net (-9 under par) the odds of that happening is about 3,577 to 1. To do it 2 days in a row on courses you don’t play all the time is about 15,000 to1 and therefore a person needs to be adjusted because they evidently have an incorrect inflated handicap.
For a single digit handicap like myself (6-12) the odds of the first 63 net (-9 under par) is about 27,877 to 1 and to do it two days in a row is over 150,000 to 1. It is also way different than the lottery odds because a lottery is total luck and talking about golf and the lottery is not even a good comparison. I would say it is closer to a 160 average bowler shooting two 300 games in a row. NOT POSSIBLE!
We have handicaps to keep things fair for all players and adjusting someones handicap to what they actually are shooting makes that playing field fair. That is why there is a rule for unusual scores.
Under that philosophy, should folks also get adjusted for shooting excessive scores ABOVE their index as well??? LOL!
Don’t I wish Stan!!! Don’t I wish!!!!
Jack, I understand what you are trying to say but I leave this up to Christian and his people.
I got lucky in 2009 and won my flight do not know how that happened, I shot right around my index and maybe just under my index on one day.
But to answer your question Christian on the other page I will try and have a great time trying.
43 days left till I am in Vegas, cannot wait boys, yes I keep saying that!!! Safe travels to all.
If one would look at the scores of each flight one would easily draw the conclusion that it is very easy to shoot a score much higher than the index most of us bring to the tournament. 70% (esimate)of the field is over there index by at least 7 strokes each day. The pressure of playing in tournament golf is a big factor as well as the aches and pain we all bring to the course from aging bodies, arthritus, the night before activities….etc. You cannot beat this golf experience anywhere else in the world. Come and have fun, beat the players you are with for the day in a relaxed environment and just maybe you will find yourself at the top of the leader board. The technical side of handicaps and net scoring does not get us to the finish line. Good golf does. The Tournament Staff does all the hard stuff and very well overall.
Jack,
Last year in the Masters, 2 flights comprising 60 golfers, more than 33% had an exceptional tournament score 6 strokes under par or better. Many others were 3, 4, and 5. 40 out of 60 golfers were under par.
The first error is that the scores should be compared to the course rating not par. This discussion has gone on for decades with the World Am.
Stan,
You are correct. There are always variables to be considered and I think the Handicap committee is quite well qualified to weigh everything.
The Master’s Flight is what we would call an “anomaly” in reference to the overall picture. There are always one or two instances that don’t fit the mold exactly. The bigger picture is in the other flight results. One still has to play good “consistent” golf to be at the top.
I could win my flight if I could just get rid of the alligators(triple par) and occassional T-Rex’s(quad par). The rest of the holes are ok.
The way the world am is doing it is whatever scores you win your flight with during the week you receive an index for the championship round based solely on that. No 59′s that way.
I had this info passed on to me from a golfer concerning shuttles to and from Las Vegas airport. Las Vegas Limo’s (aka: ALC) out of Mesquite, NV will transport people to and from the airport. Their rates are $50.for R/T and $30. for One Way. P/U times at the Airport and Hotels will be sent to me and I will then forward it out to you all if interested. Just in case your ride wants to leave earlier or later than you want to. Safe travels to all 39 days for me. STMF
For those of you looking for my breakdown of the latest numbers, I am out of town and away from my specialized equipment that I do it with.
(My Printer & my Pen) So maybe when I get home tomorrow I’ll work it up. The weather here in Nevada is nice.
By my count 04-13-2012
Men-73
Seniors-116
Super Seniors-171
Masters-78
Women-100
Total-538
Thanks Ron
Ron, you forgot George and all the other sponsor spots that are playing. That probably puts the event over the 550 mark.
Jeff,
When I do the count, I only do what is on the Participant list. According to that list, we are at 538. As for the others, Christian knows the actual numbers. The numbers I give and the numbers that Ron just put out are the ones that we have access to.
Yes my name is not on the list yet but I do wish I was a sponsor spot, I don’t how many others are missing but I do know me, Bruce King and Bob Uszinski are not on the list and will be soon. So theres 3. 541, haha. STMF
Here’s a tip. If you would have signed up before March 31st, you would have saved yourself $50. And that’s just as good as money.
We’ve hit the “50″ mark for the 4th Annual Cigars Under the Stars. Still time to sign up on that thread. Pass it along to your cigar Buddies please.
Hey George,
Are you getting close to knowing the 4-somes for Monday’s Skins Game? And when are you going to post them and where? I notice only 8 spots remain for the Monday Game. Glad we are having a good showing. Mr DeRango wanted to play in my 4-some, Why, I have no idea. He has never seen me golf. I guess we’ll let it be a big surprise to him. We are both “SENIORS” after all. Just remember, Iam NoOne.
Wheels Down and 80 MPH.
I usually do it about the first week of may and you will see them right on the website. Hoping to get to the 108 or more so we fill the field. I will put on one more invite on May 1 and then start working the foursomes out. STMF
Got ya big guy. I’ll let you know the condition of the courses I play next weekend.
Kerry, if there anything like in November they should be outstanding.
George donot for get to add Fred D. in our 4-some too for Monday game,
it is all about fun and fellow ship! then we play golf nothing better then that.
looking forward to a great week. safe travles.
Hey David,
Who is the fourth in our little group of Misfits?
I see we have Florida, Illinois, & Utah covered.
And I know they were great the last time I was there,
a few weeks ago. It was just a wind thing then.
You know, play it 30 yards out to hit the fairway.
150 Yard driver, 210 yard 8 Iron. FUN
Ok folks,
This is where we are at:
As of the Participant list dated 4/20/2012
Men – 74
Senior – 118
Super Senior – 175
Masters – 75
Women – 103
Gross – 2
Total – 547
We lost 3 masters? Hope it isn’t anything serious for them.
I just went over the list dated 4/13/2012, and only counted 76 Masters, you had 78 listed. You however did not list any Gross numbers, which is 2 for the past two lists. Possibly you counted the Gross as Masters. So 1 Masters is gone. Snack Time, I’ll see who it is later.
It actually appears that a husband & wife that were on the 4/13/2012 list are not on the 4/20/2012 list.
Kerry,
do not know I leave that upto George, he always put me with a bunch of nice guys.
so if you are up for some fun and great day of golf with a fun filled person, well better find another 4-some!!! just kidding.
547, numbers are looking up!
David,
Did you miss this part:
our little group of Misfits?
See you in about 30ish, or a few more .
No! I got that, our little group of Misfits?
I have been called much worst then that!
29 days till I am in Vegas!!
I am moving up to the Super Seniors this year and will be happy to run a daily Skins games for the Nicklaus, Palmer, & Player groups. I have run it for the last 6 years in the seniors. We will do $20/day and heads-up in your own flights. On Thursday we will do an additional pool for all the players in the rotation (that will be $40 for Thursday to play both). You can hang around after the round to collect, I can pay you the following day, or you can find me at dinner. On Thursday you will need to hang around or find me that night.
Just like Stan I will volunteer my services to run the skins in the mens 49 and under flight. Not as lucky to move up in flights like Stan, 5 more years. I do all men together, the higher handicappers play from a tee up so it makes it fair. 20 a day and we pay out in bar afterwards. Open to all men in the flight. Good luck on travels, see you in 30 days. STMF
Ok Stan, now you are in the Super Seniors who will do it for the seniors??
Do not leave that up to me I can screw up a two car funeral?
Any one what to run this I will help!!!
Christian,
,Not sure if you already answered this question. When do you expect to put out the index breakdown for the flights?? I’m assuming it will be close to the 2011 rotation! Trying to book prctice rounds and which age group to play in.
Thanks
We will be doing final handicap checks on May 15th and I anticipate having the flights posted for people to look at shortly after that. You can use 2011 as a guide as it won’t change that much depending on what division you are in.
Update to both skins games. The Sunday gross game at Falcon Ridge is up to 43 players and we have 9 spots left. The Monday net game at The Palms has 103 players registered with 9 spots left. If anyone is playing either of those courses and you want to get in a practice round this might be the way for you. Meet a lot of nice people, play some golf and have a chance at starting the week off right by winning some money. http://www.tournevents.com/doingit2012 is the website or if you have any questions just drop me a line here. Safe travels to all I lift off in 27 days. STMF
Christian,
Still trying to sign up additional golfers (Canadians). What is the fnal sign up date?? May 14th or 15th??
Yes I would prefer before the 15th as we will start verifying indexes on that date. honestly I will take them up to a week before. We will do our best to get everyone in the field!
Well, we have hit May. That means that I will arrive “back” in Mesquite in 24 days. This time for the Tournament. Can not wait to see all my Tournament Buddies. Saturday I will golf, Somewhere. No Tee Time yet. Sunday is for relax & massage. Monday is getting money from George’s Skin Game, And then it is Tournament time. Wheels down & 80 MPH
I played Sunday at the Oasis-Palmer, the couple that I joined was from the Dallas, Texas area. I of course mentioned the Tournament. It was too late for them for this year, But next year has good possibilities. It sounded like a possible 6-8 people. Tim thanked me for spending his money. Hope to see them again, as they were a great couple.
I will be sending out the “last” invite for both skins game this evening. As of today the gross game on sunday at Falcon Ridge is at 46 golfers with 6 slots available and the net game is at 110 golfers with 10 spots left if anyone is interested. Website is http://www.tournevents.com/doingit2012. Safe travels to all I am wheels up in 22 days and a wake up. STMF
4 spots left in both events. Looks like its gonna be a great year. Only 20 days till I am in the air and 21 till I am smelling that desert air. Can’t wait to see all of you. STMF
Well Folks
here are the numbers from the list Dated
5/4/2012.
Sorry to disappoint everyone.
569 people are now listed.
This new list does not have
the divisions listed.
That is my fault I forgot to include that this time. It will be on the list posted this Friday. Registrations are still coming in so if you have some friends that are still on the fence tell them to get registered and share in the 10 year celebration.
I just figured it was because you were working on assigning flights,
but still wanted to keep us apprised of the numbers, so you just
put this out for our info. Thanks for the info. You know your hard work is appreciated by all.
569, not bad with registration still coming in you never know we could get to 580!!!
it is better then last year.
Kerry,
wet and cold for my golf league tonight cannot wait to get to warm and dry weather!!! will not know how to handle it!!
see you soon!
David
You will figure out how to handle the warm weather.
Just think of Stan playing across the the Pond to the East.